Radio is where ugly people go. Podcasts is where ugly, niche people go. It doesn’t get much uglier and nicher than talking about iPhone dev; and the tale of one desperate man X on a desperate journey Y with his desperate sidekick Z, where:
- X = Dr Nic
- Y = iPhone development
- Z = Ruby
From the Mobile Orchard news desk:
Dr. Nic talks about his migration manager for updating SQLite iPhone databases, trying to get Ruby onto an iPhone, using Ruby to unit-test Objective-C iPhone code, his company Mocra, and the Mobile Orchard Podcastâ€™s lavish recording studios.
Dan Grigsby is the interviewer and post-production guy for the interview, and so it is entirely his handy work that it seems like I’m the only one talking for 15 minutes. The original interview took 4 hours and it was mostly him talking. He’s quite a chatterbox. I barely got a word in edgewise. 
Dan also created this list of “things we talked about”:
- 0:00: Migrations for SQLite
- 5:18: Getting Ruby onto an iPhone
- 5:59: Nu – Lisp-based language that sits atop Obj-C and would work on the iPhone
- 7:37: Unit testing Obj-C from Ruby
- 8:12: Webkit UIs
- 12:31: Mocra / â€œUsed my blog for evilâ€
 This paragraph starts well and ends with blatant falsehoods.